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By TRENT SPINER
Union Leader Correspondent

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The Rev. David Pinckney, 45, has lost sleep since convicted child murderer Raymond Guay moved into his Durgin Road house last week. But it isn't Guay he's afraid of, it's the neighborhood.

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manny,

It was from willy wonka. What facts don't I have right about guay? what part of the story wasn't told? My understanding is an adult male (guay) shot a child in the face and killed him. Did this not happen? While in prison for murdering an innocent child not only did he (guay) commit other crimes but he also joined the same organized religion you participate in. Are these things that didn't happen? You started to defend him publicly and not only did you not mention his victims you said maybe it was somehow gods plan that all this came to pass. Did this not happen? If by thinking differently you mean thinking like you, then you are right... I don't want that to happen.
- Bill, Andover

Bill,

I wrote not out of spite and hate, but frustration about all of these posts where people are forming opinions without doing any research at all . . . "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" . . . how many times have people (me included) gone off the deep end and made statements based on a few facts, when the rest of the story would have cleared some things up. People love controversy and rhetoric (as evidenced by this comment board, even though the story is dying down in the media and will be a non issue soon. Which is good because maybe we've been shaken awake enough to start looking into our own communities and doing the research to see who else is living in our neighborhoods that are bigger threats to our safety because they aren't being watched.


I'm not judging (ok, maybe a little, and I apologize for that) but you seem to have made an opinion about me in my stance without giving me the benefit of the doubt . . . you assume I'm arrogant and prideful. You're entitled to your opinion, in that, and in the case about Ray, you don't have all the facts Bill, and I suspect you wouldn't want them because then it might force you to think differently . . . with all that said, I don't know your heart, and apologize for assuming i do. If that's considered "typical christian rhetoric" then that's fine . . . I'd hope that my life always points itself back to Jesus . . . I'm just trying to live by His example and if that's offensive to people that don't believe the way I do, then that's fine . . . it will always be offensive . . . I won't apologize for Christ. I boast only in Him, not in myself. But that's ok. I'm not here to win or for competition . . . the bigger issue will always be about whether any of us believe the claims of Jesus, and whether or not change is possible through him. If people don't believe it's possible, that's their opinion. I'm not going to convince anyone by my words, nor do I seek to. I've presented my beliefs, stated my opinion, tried to back it up intelligently and with compassion, and I can let it rest at that. I'm praying for you Bill, and for everyone connected to this . . . that's not arrogance, that's just how I feel.

Peace,

Manny

PS . . . I think it's great that issues of faith like this one are being presented in such a public forum for this small window of time . . . glory to God for that . . . I'd also invite you to step into a church that believes the Bible and loves Jesus and try it on. it may suit you.

PPS . . . I didn't think you could make me chuckle, but in light of all of the passion we've been exchanging, your last statement "good day sir" made me think of a classic episode of "That 70's Show" when Fez yelled: "I said Good Day!" heheh.
- Manny, Concord

manny,

Of course I haven't spoken to any of the people involved, why would I? I'm not the one boasting that I met with a killer and am convinced that he is changed just because he claims to believe what I believe.
I asked you that question because you were so full of pride for meeting with him, in fact you even asked the rest of us "How many of you would take the time to actually listen to him talk or ask him questions?" the point you were trying to make with that question was obvious, so I called you out on it.

You answered with typical christian rhetoric. The bottom line is you were defending a man you know absolutely nothing about simply because he claims to have found your organized religion, you did so with pride, spite and without mention of the victims. You can keep writing huge post after huge post but you have been outed for the fraud you are. You lose, good day sir.
- Bill, Andover

B, Manchester, NH

First of all, I hear (or is that "read" heheh) your passion on this subject and respect it because this is a topic that gets all of us going regardless of what we feel or believe about it. I'm really sorry to hear about your years of abuse and your pain . . . and will pray for you and for the healing you need. Let me say that we are all "sinners" and are capable of things as horrible as what was done to you and even worse. And let me say that even though I don't know your situation, whoever abused you was a person, not God. God loves you and wants to help and comfort and heal. His changing of people and transforming power is for all people no matter what they've done or what was done to them. I can't relate specifically, but I know Jesus has a love for you that can transform your life. And there are many people that love Jesus in your area that would be more than happy to help you in any way they can . . . even if it's just listening. I know that pastor Pinckney's church would be more than willing to help you out and would accept you in Jesus name. They don't judge the way the world tends to judge. That's not religion my friend, that's just an offer of help from a body of broken, struggling, former criminals and people that have been hurt and abused and have since found that Jesus is the answer and true healing. It's people being real with one another and deciding to love each other anyway . . . just like Jesus does.

Ray definitely was a "despicable, lousy excuse for a human being that has had such a lack of compassion and total absence of humanity towards a defenseless child" . . . but Jesus can change even that sort of man . . . we are all the same, depraved in heart and mind and deed in the eyes of God. I know that seems screwed up, but that should give us hope not frustration and fear! The fact that God will accept us as long as we make tings right with Him no matter what we've done? That's revolutionary! The same can be said for the victims and their families . . . Jesus is not just a cop-out for criminals and abusers and murderers, he is a life-changer and transformer, and comforter to the broken and suffering and hurt and abused. With that said, I will continue to say that regardless of my words, Ray's change will be seen or not seen by his actions and the way he lives. obviously that doesn't mean everyone will all of a sudden accept Ray (especially those affected by similar crimes), in fact he will probably have to live the rest of his life with certain sections of public opinion against him . . . that's just the reality of our world.

Pastor Pinckney is not resigning and has not and will not be asked to. I'm not sure how familiar you are with churches such as the River of Grace and other area Jesus loving, Bible believing churches, but we all try to be compassionate and accepting to all people that love the Lord, regardless of their past sins and actions, as horrendous and unforgivable as they are to our human minds. Now in saying that, please be aware that the River of Grace and pastor Pinckney are not carrying this lightly, and are not being spontaneous to the detriment of educated caution and taking steps to assure safety to the pinckneys, the community and to the people that go to the church itself. Even though it came out in the media as a "sudden" event, pastor Pinckney had the counsel and advice of people that knew, know, worked with, have spent considerable amounts of time with, and were in contact with Ray before he became a Christian, and after he became one in the early 90s and up until this day . . . people that are still in contact with Ray now. Parole officers, prison ministry members, former employers etc . . . all of this and their words of advice and recommendations were taken into account by David Pinckney and his family (albeit probably with less time to process it than they would have liked). This "due diligence" (or however you spell it) was done.

Again B, I don't know you so you can feel free to ignore or write me off as a loony . . . but I'm so sorry for what you have suffered, and for your anger . . . the fact that you have suffered so much is even more reason to seek the peace and change of God . . . many churches to reach out and help and offer counseling to victims of abuse . . . and this whole crazy media coverage is no doubt making it even worse. But my prayers are with you, and I hope you can connect with or be in contact with good churches and people that love Jesus and will help you the way that you need it.
- Manny, Concord

I would like to know if Reverand Pinckney is ready to surrender his position within the church. I am a survivor of years of incest and am utterly disgusted and sick to my stomach that this Rev has offered his food and home to this despicable, lousy excuse for a human being that has had such a lack of compassion and total absence of humanity towards a defenseless child. I hope that people take it upon themselves to seek justice. I mean exactly what you think I mean. It seems that the judicial system is all about forgiving the offender without taking into consideration the dysfunctional child that will or will not survive these unbearable acts of sexual violence. I think maybe if Reverand Pickney spends more time possibly donating his time to counseling the vicitims of sexual abuse he would be less apt to extend a welcoming hand to the criminal who has taken the "child" out of the person who has been horribly violated. I am deeply saddened that there seems to be more protection for the predator than the forever affected victim. My prayers are with the victims and always will be.
- B, Manchester, NH

Lynn, Dover and Cybil . . . good faith and good judgment . . . good way to look at it . . . God gave us a brain to think and a heart to feel . . . we are all better off if we use both in combination. The "good faith" of David Pinckney is in his trust that the Lord has changed Ray . . . his "good judgment" is in the guidelines he has set up to not allow Ray alone with his daughter (or neighbors) etc, and not to leave the property without an adult with him and then only by car (which Ray has agreed to even though I'm not sure he legally has to). I'm also in agreement with the "bearing good fruit" mentality . . . we'll all see how changed or not Ray is by the way he acts in certain situations.
- Manny, Concord

People should not confuse purporting good faith and using good judgment. In this case, they are mutually exclusive.
- Lynn, Dover

The proof of this matter lies in the fact that the fine Reverend will NOT leave his daughter alone, even for one moment. with Guay the child killer.
If Guay is a "changed" man then why won't the Reverend trust Guay enough to be alone in his (Pickney) home with any child?

The answer is the proof that Guay re-offended 100% of the time and the Reverend knows he will once more.
- Cybil N, Concord, NH

Bill, Andover . . . good question. First, let me say I respect your opinion and your right to share it. And thanks for reading my whole email, I know it was long. The bottom line: Do I believe that we are all sinners in need of a savior to make us right with God? Yes. Do I believe that because of our sin and fallen world that horrible things can happen to good people? Yes (even though this is hard to accept, and I don't believe that one sin is worse than another in the eyes of God). Do I blame God or think it's His fault? No. Do I ultimately trust in His direction and using all things for his ultimate purpose and good? Yes.
So do I believe there is forgiveness for Ray in the arms of Christ? Yes, if he has truly accepted Christ as I think he has. The proof will be in how he lives his life outside of prison . . . watch him if you'd like over the next 2 months and see how it pans out (his walk since 1993 has been interesting and evidence of his change --- the interesting part is that he accepted Christ when he didn't have any hope or option of getting out of prison, so the "getting saved to get out of jail" reasoning doesn't make sense to me). I don't have all the answers obviously, but I do know how Jesus changed my life and how without him in my life I'd be in a much worse place . . . and how he filled the emptiness in my heart and took away the guilt of my sin . . . I can't expain it other then that. I wouldn't say I am "proud" to have sat with Ray . . . but I'm happy to have actually listened to him and given him a chance to talk . . . pride would be a sin right? I walked into the room where he was feeling afraid and fearful, and even angry at him (yeah, good Christian attitude right? Hey, I may be a believer, but I am not perfect, and I struggle . . . but the difference is that I surround myself with people that help me get back on track when I fall . . . and the fact that I want to follow Christ and live in a way that honors him is proof of the change in me (in my own opinion anyway). I hope that you can experience a change like i've experienced someday, because all of my words won't explan or convince anyone of anything . . . I would hope that they look at my life and decide if I'm the real deal . . . just like people have been doing to Ray since 93, and even more so now that he's out.
Oh, I hope it's obvious that i haven't sat or talked with the families of Ray's victims . . . They're out west somewhere . . . I'd love to find out and get their side of the story though and see where they're at and if they've changed . . . and if not, offer them the hope of Christ to heal their brokenness and sorrow . . . I hope they read some of the coverage and see the change in Ray. What would happen if they became Christians as a result of all this? (I'm probably dreaming right?) Oh, what did they say when you sat with them? Or when you talked to the people that have been around Ray and known him since 93? Or when you talked to his former boss etc? Or when you talked to Pastor Pinckney or his family?
- Manny, Concord

Grow up.. the catholic church is a fraud that exploits the weak, the timid, and those incapable of rational thinking. Always has been.. always will be. So, let them gorge on the flesh and blood of Christ, worship virgins not quite a virgin, invent saints not quit saints, honor graven images and fake relics, diminish women, and corrupt children. It's all about domination and submission, they enjoy it that way and it's none of your business. Let them be.
- coolfusion, Salem

Mary, you gave a piece of scripture, yes, but you took it completely out of context. Jese was not saying that it would be better if someone hung a mill stone around his neck if he was to harm a little one ... here is the rest, and please, remember, the bible should not be taken out of context, that is where problems arise:
Luke 17:1-4:
1"He said to His disciples, "(A)It is inevitable that stumbling blocks come, but woe to him through whom they come!
2"(B)It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea, than that he would cause one of these little ones to stumble.

3"Be on your guard! (C)If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him.

4"And if he sins against you (D)seven times a day, and returns to you seven times, saying, 'I repent,' forgive him."

For a more clear picture, here it is from the Amplified bible:
1AND [Jesus] said to His disciples, Temptations (snares, traps set to entice to sin) are sure to come, but woe to him by or through whom they come!
2It would be more profitable for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were hurled into the sea than that he should cause to sin or be a snare to one of these little ones [[a]lowly in rank or influence].

One interesting thing, check out verses 3 & 4 (from the amplified): 3[b]Pay attention and always be on your guard [looking out for one another]. If your brother sins (misses the mark), solemnly tell him so and reprove him, and if he repents (feels sorry for having sinned), forgive him.

4And even if he sins against you seven times in a day, and turns to you seven times and says, I repent [I am sorry], you must forgive him (give up resentment and consider the offense as recalled and annulled).

Mary, I think you meant to put verses 3 & 4 - that us Christians, if we follow the example of Christ, then we should forgive. We are not to judge someone and take the bible out of context, saying that a millstone should be around his neck and he should go for a swim - its clearly not what Jesus was saying.
- James Jones, Manchester, NH

Manny, Concord How can you or other practitioners of organized religion believe even for a second that god would set into motion a series of events that would take the life of an innocent child to save the life of a sinful adult? I read your entire post, you seem proud of the fact that you sat with Ray (you know what pride is right?) and listened to this humble man and how he's changed. Tell me.. when you sat with surviving members of his victims families, were they as humble? And how did they change?
- Bill, Andover

I have to question any parent who lets an admitted child killer into his home. If, God forbid "Raymond" does something viscious to one of your children, especially your daughter, how important was this endeavor, really.

This case reminds me of the family from Texas recently, who let a child rapist into their home because they felt the rapist was fully healed. They turned out to be wrong and low and behold, their young boy was raped. How awful for this boy to have to go through this ordeal, because the parents wanted to help the unhelpable.
- Frank Kenyon, Hudson

I met Ray.

Yes, I actually sat in the same room with this man and listened to him talk and tell about his life for over an hour.

How many of you would take the time to actually listen to him talk or ask him questions? He is a man that was "on the road of sin" (Ray's words) for years and years . . . but after spending time with him, I believe he has truly changed. Ok, I realize I have lost most of you reading this, but that's ok, I respect your rights to have your own opinions . . . I didn't understand why this "Jesus stuff" was about either and I thought it was a "crutch" and "for the weak and lonely" too . . . but 22 years ago Jesus changed my life as well.

Ray is a humble, gentle man that loves Jesus. Obviously I didn't know him before Jesus changed him, but his description of his former self made me cringe and even fearful. But after meeting him and listening to him share his story tonight, I am convinced he is genuine. What he did was awful, and there is no excuse for it (Ray's words, not mine) . . . and he can never take anything he did back . . . and by man's standards and even God's he is the worst of the worst and deserves to die for his sins . . . and so do I if I'm honest with myself.

But the good news is that rightness with God is not dependent on what we have done or will do . . . ever . . . regardless of evil pasts and experiences and orientations and emotions and feelings and struggles and failures, it is the power of Christ that transforms a person, and continually directs and guides Ray in his current life.

Now, even though he is forgiven in God's eyes, he will still have to live out his days with the consequences of his actions in society, the press, and in the few that will continue to talk about this on message boards and at town meetings.

I am glad that the God I love and serve is accepting of me even when I fall and people are not. So you're right if you say that horrible and sinful men don't change . . . it's Jesus who changes us . . . he is working in the lives of people as a result of the media coverage even now . . . and I can't wait to see what else happens in the calm and quiet of places outside the sensationalism of the nightly news.

I also pray for the families of the people Ray hurt . . . I pray they will find the peace of Jesus in their lives, even after the horrible result of Ray's sin. I pray that they too will be transformed by the love of Jesus.

This is a twisted thought, since I've been thinking about the people who have been saying, "where was God in all of this, and why didn't He stop the murder of this child?" . . . what if it was somehow God's plan to take this terrible situation and result of satan's horrible hold, and use it to eventually change Ray and then the child's family into lovers of Jesus? Yes, an unorthodox thought, but God uses all situations ultimately for good . . . even if we never see the outcomes for ourselves.

And in this broken world, if the "crutch" of Jesus holds me up as it does Ray, then I will cling even tighter to it.
- Manny, Concord

You guys forgot this one.

"It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones." Luke 17:2
- Mary, Raymond

Let's face it, most, if not all, people would not want Guay in their neighborhood or city or state for that matter, but the reality is that the man has to go somewhere. Why is it that California and the other states were able to keep him out of their states, yet New Hampshire can't seem to get rid of him? The bickering back and forth on here shows lots of fear and that's sad to see. Why do most of you people live in fear? I just don't understand your mentalities.
- Terry, Manchester

"Back in the day" the penalty for murder was public execution. Why? Because it was not only a just punishment, but a deterrent and a reassurance to the public that justice was done and that the perpetrator could not kill again.

Now, we're so "compassionate" that we're ready to let a man, known to have tortured and killed an innocent child, to actually live in a house with teenagers and in a neighborhood with still more children. Regardless of whether or not this man is now harmless (and ON ONE, not even that very unwise pastor can know for sure), many nearby parents and their children now live in constant fear that this man may turn out to be, in fact a quiescent monster who just might kill, in a flash, and no one will be able to stop him.

Some of you people make excellent points. The rest of you are breathing way ozone or something. I think all you indignant "thou shalt not judge" types should sign up to take turns housing this guy for two weeks at a time and help him find babysitting jobs in your neigborhoods.
- Ed, Chelmsford

I do not agree with what this man did years ago and find it repulsive however he has served his sentence in the eyes of the law. You DO NOT have the right to say who lives in your town and the no one has the right to tell you who you can have in your home. That is horrible and it will only breed hate and discontent and possible vigileanties to come out of the woodwork. The last time I knew we lived in America. I say be concerned and be vigilant in the care for your children but do not live in fear and leave this family alone.
- Carole, Epping

Ruger in Winchester how about "Thou shall not KILL".
- Diane, Manchester

And here I thought David Koresh was Christ. Now someone is telling us Dave Pinckney is.
- Marc, Pembroke

I too used to believe in "found Jesus" while in prison, until a close childhood friend of my husbands spent many different sentences in the Texas prison system for DUI and even vehicular manslaughter while DUI and he would write monthly letters to my husband, always professing he was a "changed man" because he "found Jesus" while in prison. My husband was hopeful for his friend, until he came out on parole and was visiting us and we discussed his transformation to Jesus. He had a great belly laugh about that statement and said "man I only put that in my letters to you because all our letters are reviewed before being mailed from prison and that's the kind of s@#! they want to see - it tends to make life easier with the guards!". He had never found Jesus, and he wasn't even remorseful for the actions that put him in prison in the first place, and he was drinking again within one hour of leaving prison. Needless to say that was the last laugh he had in my house!!
So, Mr Guay's "finding Jesus", doesn't make any points with me..... and he did to many horrific crimes for me to believe he is "saved" or changed. All it takes is one split second with a cross word with someone before he shows his true colors again. He should still be in protective custody somewhere, somehow.
May God protect the family he is living with now, and the entire community who have been force fed this criminal.
- Verna, Pittsfield

To David Parent of Manchester, I can tell you that if this person moved to Exeter, I wouldn't be kicking and screaming to get him out of town. As I said in a previous post, look at your local sex offender list, you have SO MANY "potential" threats near you and you would have never known anything about it, this situation has been so publicized, it's ridiculous. Since when does ANYONE have to ask permission to let someone live with them, or when did our Government make it a requirement to get permission to live in any town, regardless of your criminal background? Do you only worry about Mr. Guay harming a child? Do you not think about the other derelicts walking around our streets that you don't even know about.

Get off your high horse, and redirect your anger with the officials who put him back on the streets in the first place. See that's the point so many of you are missing, there are not a lot of people that agree with him ever being release, clearly, he shouldn't have been, this shouldn't even be a problem for this neighborhood, this man should be in jail still. BUT he isn't and a judge and our government said it was OK.

Your anger is VERY MISDIRECTED........Old Man!
- Kristine, Exeter

hate to tell you folks...there is NO god. This Guay man is just a sick and twisted individual, who committed these horrifying acts! it won't be long before we read about the pastor, his wife and children in a tradegy due to this man, wow I can't believe the stupidity I read on a daily basis...you can't SAVE everyone, and neither can the invisible man upstairs.
- Steve, Manchester, NH.

I love how people from Manchester are speaking out about where guay can live after they already kicked him out.

Rick Olson, Manchester if a judge let Addison out of jail right now and he went back to live in the same neighborhood where he killed officer Briggs or any neighborhood in NH for that matter, you don't think that people wouldn't be screaming about it. Come on man use your head.
- Bill, Andover

James Jones, from Manchester, Nh. You wasted all that typing that, when you are nothing but a fraud. James Jones? Get it folks?...Jim Jones from the Jones Town massacre.
UL..Pay closer attention will you.
- David Parent, manchester

What is wrong with you? Grab a phone book in any town in America and you will find many thousands, maybe millions of James Jones's.
- Tom, Dover-Foxcroft, Me.

I did not hear one peep out of anybody who later discovered that Cop Killer Michael Addison lived right within our midst. Addison, A bad guy who robbed, terrrorized and stole from others. A guy who had no compunction about sticking a gun in anybody's face for his means.

Anecdotal evidence within the community indicates the presence of other such dangerous criminals living within the community. Nobody seems to have a problem with that. People seem to think its the police's job to fully protect them. Its not. Police Departments are "reactive" not "proactive" they do not stand guard on your door step.

In Warren vs DC, the Appeals Court opined that no special relationship, out of which a duty to specific persons arises for the purpose of protection. As In the Warren and Nichols, neither of these cases has a relationship been alleged beyond that found in general police responses to crimes. The Police have no specific duty to protect and civil liability fails as a matter of law.

I fail to see a difference between Mr. Guay and Michael Addison, in terms of the magnitude of their crimes, save for the fact that we have full knowledge of one after the fact. People need to stop being helpless sheep and start taking personal resonsibility for the protection of their families, especially in those jurisdictions wher a police response might be up to 10 minutes away. Raising hell about "who is in your community does not solve the problem, but merely makes the subject, somebody elses problem.
- Rick Olson, Manchester

Please try to remember this was Not his Only crime.
He committed other very serious crimes against other people in addition to this poor little boy.
If he has found the Lord that is wonderful, The Lord will help him understand that people are afraid of him and want him to not live right next door to them when they have children and live in a small town without a full time police force. With children everywhere and in the same home as he is.
God will help him understand that and prepare his heart.
Rev. Pinkney: It is obvious you are trying to do what is right. Trying to help this man.
Organize a plan to develop housing in remote areas with supervision and they can work by maintaining the property, cooking meals , laundry etc. They would still have the freedom of fresh air, you could even start a church there.

I am serious, I am not being callous or sarcastic.
There are other things you can do besides moving him next door to our children. How is he going to work? there are no jobs here. Is he going to walk?

Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day.
Teach him to fish and you feed him for life.
- Kath, Chichester

It is agreed. The reactions of the neighbors regarding where this man while "live" is disturbing. Easy anser.....he should remained jailed for the rest of his life. I can forgive him much easier IF I am SURE he is not a threat to society and our children ever again. In fact, if he is such a wornderful changed man then perhaps he is needed in prison where he can spread the good of love and kindness word to others who have killed. He tortured and murdered a child.....enough said.
- Jean, Salem

rev 22:1-6
- kathy, manchester nh

James Jones, from Manchester, Nh. You wasted all that typing that, when you are nothing but a fraud. James Jones? Get it folks?...Jim Jones from the Jones Town massacre.
UL..Pay closer attention will you.
- David Parent, manchester

There points,

1. You can't "pray" for a solution to this that does not involve mercy and forgiveness, that would be anti-Christian. God isn't going to listen to hypocrisy.

2. This is about the rule of law. You either believe in the law or not. The law has let the man our of prison. The negative posting "Christians" here would be a lynch mob if it were only allowed. In that respect they are no better than Guay.

3. We all live near criminals, child molesters, drug addicts and thieves. The difference here is it's in the paper.
- Robin, Manchester

I can't believe how many of you "Christians" put the monster above the child. So many here have said they pray for guay while not a single mention for his victims. Is this really what god wants, to forgive a man like guay without even one mention of his victim? Pathetic!
- Bill, Andover

The pastor in this situation is living a life like Christ, and it is very encouraging to see this - espcially considering the recent statistics that show NH is number 2 in the most amount of people professing belonging to a religion of some sort - I am not religious, nor do i beling to a religion, I prefer a relationship over that ... but regardless, this statistic shows why people have so much angst and horror over this man being released and why they don't understand what the pastor is doing. The pastor is simply living like Christ, as we are told to do. Christ was accused of being a drunkard - he would hang out with drunks, murderers, tax collectors - all the despised people in society during His time on earth. What better example is there than that? As other people said on here, we are not to judge - absolutely - we are also not to live stupidly, and we should also bring all things, through prayer and petition to God. I'm sure the pastor has prayed about this, and now, he is showing the greatest sign of compassion towards someone and taking in a veritable outcast from society and showing him first hand the love of Christ and what it truly means to be a Christian. I'm very proud of this pastor for doing what the Lord is leading him to do, for being an example to his family and also an example to Guay. Keep it up!!
- James Jones, Manchester, NH

Who are we to decided whether or not this family should forgive Mr. Guay!- Kristine, Exeter

-Ok kid. Put your money where your mouth is and provide your address so we can send him there. (crickets chirping) Its not about if this family forgives Mr.Guay. They are entitled to make stupid mistakes. It's America. But they brought him into the neighborhood and exposed OTHERS to their mistake without their consent!!! They don't have the right to do that. Get a clue.
- David Parent, Manchester

I commend the pastor. People do heal and people do deserve another chance.
- JT, Manchester

God works in mysterious ways. Our Corrections System is a sham and without any metrics that will substantiate potential outcomes. That said, this man was placed here by God and for good reason. We need to listen to our Lord and listen clearly. I have over thirty five years in and around the treatment and criminal justice systems. I know first hand that the institutional programs do not work. However, I also know that anyone can find the Lord and turn their lives around. This Pastor, while I don't know him, is no fool. I have seen many sick, criminal and perverted people in corrections settings. I hope it is not surprising to anyone that they were not all inmates but staff. We all need to support Gods call on this matter and pray that the outcome is what he wants. God Bless all who support this effort and even those who don't.
- Jay, Concord

Maybe we should amend the constitution.

If someone is charged with a crime, they get a jury trial and if guilty get sentenced by the juge according to the law and applicable sentencing guidlines.

In phase two of the sentence, a mob of angry people get to create new punishments based on media reports, irrational fears and emotion.
- Chris, Keene

Forgiveness is honorable. But to release this guy into society is foolishness. Any of you forgiveness-loving people favor the release of Charles Manson? Would any of you want your child to be the one that proves releasing Guay was a mistake?
- Brian, Farmington

These comments illustrate perfectly what it is to know Christ and be a Christian. You can see Christ's work across all ideologies; Christianity takes guts if it's really in you.
- Tom, Dover-Foxcroft, Me.

As I wrote in a privious post this man is living a little over 200 feet from my home that I share with my three young children. When I found that he was there was I very angry. Mostly because I wasn't informed he was there and the possible dangers he posed to my family. A few days have passed and my anger has turned to being afraid. When I went home today from work I felt like I'd done something wrong at school and had to face my parents, but more so. I'm scared he's 200 feet away. What if he snaps? If I subdivide my property I have to inform the people abutting me. If a person with his backround moves in and we're not notified for our families sake? He did his time.
He's out. I don't blame him for being here I blame the federal prison system. What bone head decided to place him in an area filled with young children? The federal probation and parole system and a wacked minister w/4 kids in his home. He said he talked w/his kids and they're ok with this. What about my children? Very bad decision.That's who I blame. The Chichester police have been great. They're making a lot of hourly and then some patrols and keeping in close contact with us.
Yes he did some outragous things. But this situation falls directly on his handlers. Scream and yell at all the things he's done you have a right, but don't blame him for this mess. Mr Gauy I hope you truly have found god and can live with yourself, but please spare us the agony and fear we're feeling. Can I have the country home I built for my family back fear free?
We just lost our freedom and we didn't do anything wrong!!!
- Brian Kelly, Chichester

To Tim in Weare, Pinckney is not Christ and to be against him is not to be against Christ. Stop your rhetoric.
- Dave, Chichester

This is yet another example of "those good Christians" putting themselves over their own God. Who are they to judge? While they may well profess that they are not doing it, it's pretty obvious they are. Mr. Guay did fulfill his sentence - according to our laws, he now must be allowed to restart his life.

Anyone professing to a "Good Christian" is quite simply, NOT. They should live out such values day in and day out - thus not having to "tell us" about what they are. I so wish they'd stop using God's name when they are so trying to indicate that they are above him.

Good luck, Mr. Guay. Here's one guy who is praying that you show these "Christians" that God loves you too!

Lastly, thank you Pastor P. for being a true man of faith. . . just when we thought that the world was becoming more and more full of hypocrisy in the clergy. Phew! There's at least one left.
- Mike, Manchester

"My daughter got teary-eyed because she doesn't understand why people are upset that we're helping someone,"

Has she been told all the horrible details of what his mind is capable of and the things he did to that little boy? For that matter do you? Or is this the way it works in your household "Oh he killed a boy a long time ago dear but he's better now" You and your Daughter should talk to the victims mother and have her read the police report to you both. Then she would understand why poeple are so upset. Sickness like that does not change its only restrained.

And now he's eating turkey dinners with you and your children. How many turkey dinners has that mother had without her little boy.
- Jeff, Hollis

Any arguments based on religion should be moot. Our society is made up of all from atheists to zealots. Rightfully so there is a separation between church and state. The big question here is was justice served? In my opinion it was not. How can someone who tortured AND killed another person ever be released from prison? He gave up all societal rights when he committed those acts. Any community should therefore have the right to deny him. Our justice system says inocent until proven guilty. Well, 35 years ago he was found guilty, plain and simple. Once a child killer, always a child killer.
- Ron Chando, Concord

Congratulations to the Pastor who took him in. He has the courage of his convictions, something very rare now days. This man has served his sentence, paid his debt as the State saw fit. The little boy is gone forever, his murderer has been dealt with. I think the penalty was too easy... I'm not a lawyer or a judge. Smarter people than I figured out what to do with this guy, and it's done.
- Mike, Auburn

Is this the "undisclosed" location the UL was speaking of last week? Nice job keeping this one a secret!

Once again, right or not, this man was sentenced for a crime he committed, he completed his sentence, he is now free to live his life........like it or not, its the law. Be angry with the judge that handed down the sentence, not a Pastor and his family doing what they believe is the right thing.

Who are we to decided whether or not this family should forgive Mr. Guay!
- Kristine, Exeter

Anybody want to buy a house on this guy's street? You couldn't pay me enough to take one for free....

I'm all for God, Jesus, and salvation. It's a beautiful thing. So is penence. Mr. Guay should be fulfilling his penence in jail.

If Mr. Guay is a true man of God he should willingly sacrifice himself for the greater good of the community by returning to prison voluntarily. He owes that much to his victims as they truly deserve to live in peace. If he returned to prison voluntarily then I would have no doubt to his faith as it would be the just thing to do. Just imagine how useful Mr Guay would be in prison as a new found man of God? He could light the way and help other wayward folks....

Rambling on- With all the talk of God and children why isn't the great Bishop of Manchester weighing in?
- JSF, Manch

WS - Manchester
I am so glad you wrote that... I am sorry for my previous comment.... Calling NH foolish and fools.... I am sorry, may God forgive me....
- Dee M, Manchester, NH

I am outraged that this man has been allowed to move into my neighborhood. I do believe people have the capacity to change - but I am unwilling to accept the risk that Guay may be putting up a good front. I am saddened that someone in our very small community would assume this risk on behalf of all of us. Belief or disbelief in God is not the point - it's the point of feeling safe or not. Frankly, my children & I are petrified & everything we do has to be re-thought so no one is left home alone.
Its unfair to those of us who live in this small community.
- DARLENE PHELPS, CHICHESTER

It's unfortunate child molester/abusers/
murderers - and those who rescue them - muddy the waters w/religious or spiritual claptrap. The facts re: those who perpetuate crimes against children are shocking and have absolutely nothing to do w/"being saved" by anyone or any thing. They do what is normal (though perverted!) for them to do. Recitivism is 100%. Period. They don't sometimes revert to type, they ALWAYS revert to type.
My statements do not stem from my absolute certainty prayer, God, and supporting people can and do turn lives around daily. My absolute certainty this man will commit another crime against a child stems from 20 years as an expert court witness in child molestation, abuse, and dysfunction. Thieves, drug addicts, B+E cons, et.al.) can be rehabilitated. But, social science research in every country, every culture, and every religious environment cites the Mr. Guays of the world commit the same crimes again and again and again...
Tragically, by the very nature of the secrecy of these crimes against children, the incidents are many and horrific - long before they're stopped.
- Jill Shackford, Ph.D., Claremont, NH

It's funny... whenever something good happens, many of you people will point your finger to the heavens and praise the lord for your good fortune.

Mr. Pinckney has put his faith in the hands of God, and the outcome shall be God's will.

Don't you trust your faith?
- Angelo M, Manchester, NH

Vinn - Bedford

We view everything through our human lens and assign levels of guilt according to our standard. It's not until we can look inside ourselves as God sees us that we realize that we are all lawbreakers worthy of eternal punishment.

Matthew 5:21-22 "You have heard that the ancients were told, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER' and 'Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.'

But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.
- WS, Manchester

What has happened to the great NH motto "Live free or die"? The guy has served his time and deserves to live in peace. Albeit, watched closely, but otherwise left alone.
- Bob, Manchester

WS, Manchester, cutting off on the highway is totally different than murdering someone, an innocent boy for that matter...
When you cut someone off, yeah there are things that could have happened, but didnt...he commited a crime, various ones for that matter....
I just hope that the Pastor has made the right choice...
- Vinn, Bedford

To Tim from Weare who says that I'm "against Christ".
Does that mean you're volunteering to take him into your home? If so please come get him. I'm quite comfortable with my faith in God if Raymond Guay is sleeping tonight in your town instead of mine.
- Jamie, Chichester

I can't believe the people who wish to forgive this monster! The fact that he is out of prison let alone alive, speaks volumes about our failed judicial system. Crimes against children are the worst, and anyone who murders or rapes a child should never see the light of day again. Period!
- -Jack, portsmouth

Tim from Weare said the people who are against him [Pinckney] are against Christ. So now Pinckney is the Messiah? This is the problem when religion is taken to the extreme--people end up worshiping men who make lots of promises. I am very glad that nut jobs, like the ones posting here, are few and far between in New Hampshire. I thank god for it every day.
- Bill, Washington

I absolutely believe in the redemption of Jesus. I don't believe that means those who have accepted Jesus are now not going to sin again. Allowing someone who has committed such an atrocious crime to live with children could give the devil a foothold. I understand the pastor extending grace to someone the world says doesn't deserve grace, that was done for all of us by Jesus Himself for all of us, but discernment needs to be exercised here. Personally, it's just not a chance I'd be willing to take with my children, my most precious gift from the Lord.
- LD, Manchester, NH

If Mr. Pinckney wants to play Jesus and share his children and home with a convicted child torturer and murderer that's his choice. Afterall this is the "Live Free or Die" state.

And if it happens that this convicted child torturer and murderer strikes against his children and family he will be put away for the rest of his natural life or hopefully given the just punishment he deserved from the beginning - execution.

And I would feel grateful to Mr. Pinckney for playing his game and sacraficing his family so that my family (of 2 young teenagers) and all those in NH are spared the lifelong pain and suffering that 12 year old's family has endured from the loss of their precious child...

You see, it never ends for the true victims. All this 'sympathy' for a convicted child torturer and murderer while the family is thrust back into reliving the horror of their son's evil loss of life.
- George, Hooksett

Mr. Guay is a new creature in Christ, and Rev. Pinkney is a very Godly man. God bless you, Sir! People, God is love. He loves Mr. Guay just as much as He loves you. He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him would have everlasting life. God has forgiven Mr. Guay, and because of that he will spend eternity in Heaven. We are all born sinners, and sin is sin, no matter what was done. Did you all know we must be born again in order to spend eternity with God? It's all truth!
- G, Durham

I have a lot of respect for this Reverend. He is a more of a man than I.

As Christians, we are supposed to forgive others and put our selves in their shoes and help them.

It is sad that so many supposed 'Christians' have nothing but hate in their hearts.
- Art, Portsmouth

I admire the Pastor and his family for being loving and kind. I wish the visitor, good health and happiness in his new environment.
- Judith, Goffstown

It seems that our legal system is percieved differently depending on a persons direct relation to the crime(s) committed. Overall, we desire a fair, safe, and effective form of trial and consequence. When a case is widely known, sensationalized, or particularly heinous, the perception and reaction begin to change. We tend to think about it on a more personal level, thus reacting in a more subjective fashion. Raymond Guay has moved into this community after serving his time as ascribed by our legal system. The people in the community of chichester must keep a watchful eye over this man and his whereabouts. They must continue to make thier outrage known to thier public officials. These two actions will at best remind Raymond Guay that he is still feared as a threat by many law abiding citizens and also encourage public officials to remain hyper-vigilant against this potentially violent individual.
- scott cassen, derry, nh

This should not be an argument of faith versus no faith; those who try to characterize it as such are missing the point.

The issue is whether my neighbor has the moral right to put my family in jeopardy without my permission.

God, if it be Thy will, save us from those who make wrong decisions in Your name.
- Bill Dalton, Milton

Wow. God bless the pastor for taking this man in. Some people deserve a special place in heaven. On a side note. I think the move is insane, particularly where he has a wife and children. It's a form of Russian roulette. I hope his judgment is good, because if it's not, the alternative is unthinkable.
- michael, londonderry

This reminds me of the New Hampshire Family that opened their home to the Child Molester that was paroled from a Texas Prison. Boy, where they surprised when he re offended their 5 year old. But, he was a model prisoner they said. Sure, there aren't any children in prison to harm. For those of you that wish to quote the Bible, yes, I've sinned in my life and you would be quite surprised how many times it's been the same sin, over and over again. Get the point.
- Paul, Manchester

Tim from Weare is correct. I'll bet many of you that are outraged and against this call yourselves "Christians". I f you want to continue to label yourself that, you must forgive this man's sins! What else is it they say "Love the sinner, hate the sin".

Yes, all that stuff. But like many, you all label yourselves that, but seldom practice it unless it benefits you somehow.

The guy deserves a chance and this pastor is stepping up to the plate.

Yes, it makes us all nervous because our children are perceived to be at risk and maybe they actually are. Yes he should have spent life behind bars. You can blame our Justice system plea bargaining for that. They always try to avoid trial because of the cost. Isn't money always the last word in these things? Not the victims, MONEY.

Just sit in Derry District court for one day and you’ll see plea bargain after plea bargain. They even suspended all trials for February because of shortfalls in funding. Go figure.
- BC, Londonderry

Amen Pastor! I'm happy to see someone in NH having compassion on this man and showing the love of Christ to him. I pray that Guay's life is transformed through this and that his haeart his changed as well!
- James Jones, Manchester, NH

"So he who is without sin...Please cast the first stone..."
Please allow my 17month old child to do so then... Maybe it'll knock some sense into the judges head...
Once a child killer, always a child killer... Get him out of NH, he doesn't belong here. Move him to Montana or Florida. Why keep him in the same state where the offense occured? And then not expect a public outrage over this? Come on people!! If it was your child that mercilessly died at the hands of this man, you would feel differently.
- Stefanie, Manchester, NH

I would encourage you to think of the Smart family in Utah. Good people who also wanted to help the down trodden. The difference here is Mr. Smart didn't know what he had allowed around his family, you most certainly do. If you have minor children you have made the wrong chhoice. It's one thing for an adult to put themselves in danger, it's quite another to place your children there. While your intentions are good, you decision is not safe for your family.
- Dawn, Hudson FL

I feel for Guay. I really do and I feel for Pickney for being of a forgiving and loving nature and being criticized for it. I, for one, do not share that feeling at all. I think they both deserve our best blessings. I feel our justice system served it's purpose. Mr Guay has done his time and wishes to be part of the world as a productive citizen and I bless him in that endeavor. I think that Mr Guay has found god, that he deserves our forgivenss and our compassion. However - having said all that - I think allowing him to live in the same home with my childred and my wife is taking it a little bit too far. Have him to dinner. Help him find a home. Love him, be his friend. But don't let him sleep where your family does. What if you are wrong (God forbid)!? I hope you are not wrong. But that's a lot of risk to pin on another's redemtion. I do not criticize you for being forgiving and loving at all. I admire it. I criticize your poor judgement in allowing him such easy access to your precious family.
- Dave, Manchester

David Pinckney was an intrim pastor at my church for a fair amount of time, and I got to know him quite well. I trust that he has thought this all through and that he knows exactly what he is doing. The people who are against him are against Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:17 hits the nail on the head.
- Tim, Weare

The reality is Do you have faith in the prison system of rehabilitation? We should realize that even though we sentence people with crimes such as this they eventually somtimes get released back into society. SO we really need to ask ourselves is the current Rehabilitation system working? If not how do we fix it so when people do come out of Prison we can safely assume that they are not a risk to society.
Pastor, God bless you and your family. You are doing a beautiful deed and its too bad people can not see the work of God through your actions in this matter. I'm ashamed to say i may not of done the same but appreciate your actions as a learning moment for all.
He has done the time for the crime he has commitied. I'm not saying forget what he did.
- pharp, Derry

People who do a lot less to put their children in jeopardy have those children taken away by the state all the time.
- Rich, Manchester

He invites this monster into our neighborhood and he has the audacity to say he's afraid of US?! Did he see what that animal did to that innocent 12 year old boy?! ...and I'm supposed to believe he is more afraid of us?! Not likely. If Raymond Guay needs forgiveness he can find it with God, not with the people of Chichester. Maybe God wants him, but we sure don't.
- Jamie, Chichester

Connie & Ruger - forgiveness is one thing. I forgive him. But, having a reformed killer live with your young children, quite another. We can embrace him in the state or the town or the community. And if the pastor lived alone, we may have less to say about the pastor's decision. But inviting him to sleep in your family room while your 13 year old sleeps upstairs....well, that's just unconscionable.

I was abused as a child and although I have forgiven the man in my heart and he has said he is sorry to my face and I beleive in my heart that he has put his actions in the past, he is still not welcome to sleep in my house with my 9 year old and he is allowed NO exposure to her. I have forgiven him and I do believe him. Given the slightest, tiniest, most minute chance that I was wrong, I cannot allow my child near him. When she is an adult, she can make her own decision about him, but as long as she is my responsibility, I have a DUTY to protect her from him no matter what I beleive to be true.
- Brenda, Manchester

"It is hard for people who have not been transformed by Jesus to understand what inner transformation is like," Pinckney said.

Amen!

Before judging another person's heart, ask yourself a few questions. Do you think you're a good person? How many lies have you told in your life? Jesus said "Whoever looks at another person to lust after them has already committed adultery in their heart." The sermon on the mount also tells us that if we have ever hated another person, God sees that as murder. Have you ever hated someone? Think about the last person that cut you off on the highway. The saving grace of God through the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross has the ability to transform the heart of everyone willing to receive it. Examine your own heart. Jesus died for Guay's sins as well as yours.
- WS, Manchester

That was a completely irresponsible act as a parent.. How can one say that someone has been reformed when most of us do not understand what he had in him to be able to commit the crime in the first place. And Connie, I understand the concept of a sin is a sin is a sin, but murdering a child is beyond that for me.

He has shown what he is capable of in 1973. Saying he has been on "good behavior" while being watched closely in prison means absolutely nothing to me. Sorry. For your sake, Pastor, I hope you come to your senses and stop putting your children at risk.
- Beth, Raymond

wow, I'm praying for everyone here
-for the families of the victims to have salt poured in old wounds
-for the pastor and his family
-for Guay, our system or laws do not seem adequate to accept the responsibility for damaged humans
-for the public for not assuring that their representatives passed laws to keep multiple murderers in prison
-for the lawmakers for passing week laws
-for the judges who give weak sentences
-for the jury who must feel terrible
-for the neighbors who must put fear for family above moral and ethical constructs
-for the law enforcers who have hands tied
-for the children everywhere who feels unsafe
- cjn, manchester

he acts of Mr. Guay were dispicable and there is no way to mince those words. That said, we live in a country of laws. Guay was convicted for his crime and sentenced for his crime. He is now released. The pastor in this case is doing what he feels is best and honest. I am always amazed at how many people I see go to and from church yet they really don't live a christian lifestyle. In this case, we have a pastor who is taking the time to get to know someone, not based on the past but based on the present. Maybe if we all looked at each other in the same way the pastor looks at Guay, we would have a better understanding of society.
- Jeff, Manchester

I am not surprised by your comments since the articule last week where NH and Vermont lead the country in NON Believers! God can do anything, He speaks life. Psalm 14:1 "Only fools say in their heart there is no God." and Proverbs 23:9 "Don't waste your breath on fools, for they will despise the wisest advice." So now I come to realize that I am wasting my breath on you foolish New Hampshire fools~!
- Dee M, Manchester, NH

Connie in Concord,

Don't pray for me, pray for the kids' safety who are now living with this child killer. By the way, I'm not judging him, a jury already and the US and NH Constitutions gave them that right.
- Tom, Newmarket

"A federal judge in California ordered Guay to serve out 2 1/2 years of parole in New Hampshire"

How about if we rent a place for Guay next door to this loony judge?

Or maybe he's not so loony - - he DID send Guay as far away from his own family as he could. There's a message in that, no?
- PJ, Washington

As someone who welcomed a man into our home (wife and three young children) after he was released from prison after serving 20 years for very violent offenses, I am reminded of the pain that he suffered while he was with us because of attitudes like I see expressed here. (don't worry -- this was a number of years ago when we lived in the Washington DC area)
Larry lived with us for 3 years and became a good friend of the family which he still is today. None of us regret our decision and we would do it again in the right circumstance.

It is pretty shocking to read some of the comments related to Pastor Pinckney's decision. It sounds as if many of you would prefer that we return to a vigilante type of justice system where each of you would have the right to mete out your own brand of justice based on emotion and your own set of facts. Just understand that if we take that step backwards, it could be you that might be a victim of an unfair "sentence" sometime in the future. This man has served his sentence, been approved for parole, and now needs an opportunity to turn his life around.

As someone who has worked in the criminal justice arena for years, I am the first to say that our recidivism statistics are very bad here in the US -- 3 of 4 parolees do not make it. Do our prison systems do enough to "rehabilitate" people? Probably not, but that is actually not a bad thing. The word means "to return to a former state" -- probably not what is desired here. What is clear, however, is that attitudes like what are expressed here are a significant reason people do not make it. Which of us would like to live in a neighborhood where no one would give you a chance? Many parolees fail on purpose because it is easier to live inside than outside. Discrimination of any kind is wrong. I expect that many of you would not be pleased if your neighbors knew and discriminated against you because of your past -- or perhaps current -- transgressions.

For those of you who cannot understand the Pinckney family's decision, it is very clear that it is a decision driven by faith -- not stupidity --as was mine years ago. See for Christians, at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter whether it works out or not -- although I do believe that God will protect this family. The Pinckney's are not guaranteed anything by their act of compassion. Their reward is living out the same compassion that Christ showed us when He went to the cross to die for all men -- Raymond included. None of us deserved the mercy He showed us then, but He did it because of His love for us. The hand of mercy that the Pinckney's are showing will have far greater impact to protect your community than all of your vigilante activity put together.
- Conrad Mandsager, Nottingham, NH

i respect the pastor for walking the walk and practicing what he preaches. but i would've found a different subject to prove my point! pastor, if you can't sleep now, imagine if you're wrong? good luck.
- fpc, manchester

God says, "he who is not guilty cast the first stone". We should all look in the mirror before we comment about this situation. Granted, we may not have committed murder but what about lying, cheating, pornography, lust, stealing, greed? In God's eyes a sin is a sin.

Step back and take a moment to think about this as an opportunity to be forgiven and to try to start over. Wouldn't you want that for yourself?
- Karen, Concord

Yesterday is history... lets judge people by their actions today.

People today are full of irrational fears.

The number one killer of yonug people is automobiles. Why aren't people running around protesting the cars that drive up and down the roads of this state?

The reality is, the chances of your child being murdered by some pschyo are extremely small. And when you consider someone like Guay who has been in prison for 35 years and all over the news, etc. it is next to nothing.

Everyone is afraid of the boogey man.

If people think rationally, you will realize that your child if far more likely to drown in a pool or be run over by the soccer mom chatting on her cell phone in her 6,000 lb SUV. Sad, but true.

I think this is clearly a case of people being disgusted by this mans actions (rightfully so) then by any real danger he presents to the community.
- Chris, Keene, NH

Of course he's changed. There aren't any children to Murder in Prison.
- Paul, Manchester

This is why I don't like organized religion. I am guessing a majority of the peoiple blasting Rev. Pinckney for reaching out to a fellow man in need claim to be "devout Christians." Yet, when a member of the flock reaches out, someone calls them and tells them to "rot in hell" and tries to tell him who he can and can't have staying at his house.

Should Guay be in jail forever? Yes. Should he have been given the death penalty if NH had one? Yes. However, these things didn't happen, and he is a free, albeit paroled man, who has been ordered by some NIMBY judge to stay in NH. The Reverend is trying to show some Christian compassion and help a man, who the government says has paid his debt to society, get back on his feet, and all the mob mentality wants to do is force this guy to move from town to town every three days. I say bravo for Rev. Pinckney for doing what he feels is right rather than folding to the mob of "Christians" hounding him.
- Greg, Manchester

Jim Jones also had a lot of faithful followers and said he was a Man of God. The people going to River of Grace Church are obviously drinking Pinckney's Kool Aid.

Guay should not be unleashed on any community. By his own admission, he is still battling temptation. Temptation to do what? To murder, mutilate, molest, and torture? Since our system failed to give this monster the ultimate penalty that he deserved, it should keep him locked up in some institution, in prison or somewhere else, so that he can't hurt anyone again.
- Grant, Litchfield

Let me ask all of you, Since you have the right to Judge this man or any other..

How many of you out there are "SIN" free????? a sin is a sin big or small.

This Pastor is doing a wonderful thing,believe it or not. This man has paid for his crimes since he was a adolescent.

"STOP" Judging people, Who gave you that right? God is the only one who will Judge..and if he can forgive him. What makes you better then he.?? No one I know is greater then he to do so.


2 Corinthians 5: 17,18

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

So he who is without sin...Please cast the first stone...

To ALL of you who can not forgive, I PRAY FOR YOU!
- Connie, Concord NH

The pastor got "approval" from his children before inviting Guay to live in. How nice.

Any one with children who would have a child killer live in the house is totally out of his mind.
- Bill H., Exeter

What? A pastor who lives what he preaches? Isn't that what we all say we want, no hypocracy? Love for the unlovely? A man who does what he feels is right even when it hurts? Mr Pinkney is a brave and godly man. And God is a God who can change anyone- even a Mr. Guay.
- Susan, Derry

I understand the outrage and fear on the part of those who disagree with the decisions made regarding Raymond Guay. In fact, I share that same eire. But what I am really curious to know is what people have in mind as to where this guy ought to be? I don't think its realistic to simply say, "keep him locked up" Time and liberals are the friend of heinous criminals. When people like me say "execute them" the liberals say, no. Suddenly these same liberals, when faced with having a high profile criminal in their community, the dust off their best NIMBY politics bag of tricks.

So I ask again? what to do with the Raymond Guays of our community? Manchester didn't want him; Concord, Home of the State Prison, the Secure Psychatric Unit, NH Hospital, the state's bastion of criminal programs, says no.

Lets be perfectly honest here. Criminals doing life eventually get released because institutional Geriatric care is far to costly. So, I ask what to do with Raymond Guay? NIMBY won't solve the problem.
- Rick Olson, Manchester

It takes a lot of faith in God to do what this family has done. This kind of faith is something that the ordinary person and common Christian could not possibly begin to understand.
- Darlene Wilson-Stone, Mountain Home, Idaho

2 Corinthians 5:17

17Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.
- Ruger, Winchester

You know who else got members of the clergy, a doctor, a businessman to vouch for him? Joseph Edward Duncan III.

Rev. Pinckney says, "If I really thought this was not safe for Chichester, my neighbors and especially my children, I wouldn't do this."

Yeah, sounds eerily similar to the Fargo, ND doctor's testimony when he tried to get a judge to release Duncan to his family.

How'd that turn out? Google is your friend, Rev. Pinckney. I hope your daughter isn't crying for another reason in a few months. Wake up, man!
- David, Manchester

Is it going to take this monster killing another child to make you realize, reverend? Is that is? What will you say, then? Oh, I'm sorry?

Even angels had swords to destroy satan's minions. This is one of them. Remember that.
- Scott Jahern, Derry

Ask that pastor to ask the child this evil being killed how he feels about it.

Oh, that's right. He can't. Because he was KILLED by this inhuman monster. He'd have been 48 this year.

He never had a chance to have a life. Because of this foul creature.

Look at those cold eyes. Evil.
- Mike R., Bedford

Pastor Pinckney should be committed; he is clearly crazy.
- Matt, Concord

"we are not going to jeopardize our children" Pinckney says. Too late, he already has. Talk all you want about people changing, you're going on what he is telling you, not what you know. Anyone can lie, and if by chance he did have the same psychotic urges he used to have, do you think he'd admit it? Do you think he'll tell you the thoughts he's been having about your children? Of course not, he needs a place to stay. How can you be sure he hasn't been waiting 35 years for another chance at a kid?
Not to mention, making your home a target doesn't do your kids any favors either.
You're doing all this to try to ingratiate yourself even more with your higher power.
I can't protect my kids from everything in life, but I can certainly try, and not inviting convicted child murderers to live with them is one place I'd start. But then, I wouldn't invite a priest to live with them either.
- Dan, Epping

You have lost you're mind. Your responsibilities as a parent should come first. I can't believe that any father finds it reasonable to allow this man into his home and to put his children at risk like this. Completely unacceptable. I hope this man comes to his senses.

Yes people can change and hopefully he won't see a different Mr. Guay than you did at the dinner table. He could "change" just as easily at 2 am into the man that killed that young boy and terrorized a couple in their home.

No reasonable man would put his children and wife at risk like this. Rethink! Losing your family member for your own actions would be a lot to live with Mr. Pinckney.
- Dawn, Nashua

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